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the TCG game has been discontinued thats why they no longer print cards for it, yes some loot cards remain but there all limited, its not what you use the gear for its the fact you can do it in the first place which is annoying, if its not pay 2 win lets go the whole way and mail characters 2 free epics every wednesday with 300k gold and a random mount.
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moobot83: the TCG game has been discontinued thats why they no longer print cards for it, yes some loot cards remain but there all limited, its not what you use the gear for its the fact you can do it in the first place which is annoying, if its not pay 2 win lets go the whole way and mail characters 2 free epics every wednesday with 300k gold and a random mount.
wow is not P2W, the "gear" you are talking about is what you can buy and sell on the auction house, i.e. items made by other players, or found by other players. it is a money sink.... the items there will never be the best, you can not find items for all slots, and it tends to be overpriced.
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pay 2 win is where u pay real money to get an advantage over other players such as premium ammo in world of tanks which got removed. obtaining gear through the wow token be it overpriced or not is pay to win cos its someone spending real money to get an edge over another player. you can buy fucking mythic BOE's off the auction house on m y server for like 600-800k some people are stupid enough to buy tokens for that gear to get that edge in the game. so saying wow is not pay 2 win is false
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moobot83: pay 2 win is where u pay real money to get an advantage over other players such as premium ammo in world of tanks which got removed. obtaining gear through the wow token be it overpriced or not is pay to win cos its someone spending real money to get an edge over another player. you can buy fucking mythic BOE's off the auction house on m y server for like 600-800k some people are stupid enough to buy tokens for that gear to get that edge in the game. so saying wow is not pay 2 win is false
it is not, the gear from AH is not best in slot at all

edit - in other words, it does not "get an advantage over other players" at all, you can only do this by playing

edit 2- and what do you mean by "mythic" gear? WoW do not have mythic gear, it is rare, epic or legendary
Post edited March 18, 2019 by amok
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moobot83: pay 2 win is where u pay real money to get an advantage over other players such as premium ammo in world of tanks which got removed. obtaining gear through the wow token be it overpriced or not is pay to win cos its someone spending real money to get an edge over another player. you can buy fucking mythic BOE's off the auction house on m y server for like 600-800k some people are stupid enough to buy tokens for that gear to get that edge in the game. so saying wow is not pay 2 win is false
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amok: it is not, the gear from AH is not best in slot at all

edit - in other words, it does not "get an advantage over other players" at all, you can only do this by playing

edit 2- and what do you mean by "mythic" gear? WoW do not have mythic gear, it is rare, epic or legendary
do you even play wow mythic BOE items from raids sell on the auction house, by what you just said there you obviously havnt played wow in awhile, so im done talking to someone who knows jack shit about the game
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amok: it is not, the gear from AH is not best in slot at all

edit - in other words, it does not "get an advantage over other players" at all, you can only do this by playing

edit 2- and what do you mean by "mythic" gear? WoW do not have mythic gear, it is rare, epic or legendary
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moobot83: do you even play wow mythic BOE items from raids sell on the auction house, by what you just said there you obviously havnt played wow in awhile, so im done talking to someone who knows jack shit about the game
"mythic" is a instance difficulty, not quality of gear.... you need a certain ilevel to do mythics, that's it. and I have 7 level 120's now, DPS, tank and healer. I have run raids and mythics. I have played since 2005 (on and off...) and I have never seen anyone refer to gear as "mythic", rather by colour (i.e. "blues", "purples" and "oranges") and then ilevel. so for example 375 purple gloves.
Post edited March 18, 2019 by amok
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amok: it is not, the gear from AH is not best in slot at all

edit - in other words, it does not "get an advantage over other players" at all, you can only do this by playing
If you're buying better gear or position in the game then that is buying an advantage.
Plenty of pay to win games make people grind for days and days or penalise them for not paying in other ways.

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Linko64: Boosting a toon to max level is paying to win over who exactly? The PvE? PvP? you just get a basic gear max level character.

Again with the raid gear, who are you winning over? If you're buying raid runs chances are you're not a player in a raiding guild, thus you live in LFR. This isn't winning over anyone other than limiting your self to being carried.

Blizzard fought bots LONG before they ever touched boosts and tokens. That goes far back into late 04/early 05 and the fight versus WoW glider and other programs, especially the ones that spammed PvP to farm defeat honor.

I don't like what Blizzard has become or agree with their options offered in WoW these days but I'm not going to shed logic and history to throw the term pay-to-win around. Buying the best football boots around isn't going to turn you into Sadio Mane.

No mention of the TGC game though, curious.
Some are mixed with gambling and pay to win. Maybe you have a strange definition of it.

Higher level characters are more powerful then low level. More classes mean you can swap them around to beat other players.

Raid gear is better gear. By your logic if people aren't raiding they should get that gear automatically.

Levelling bots limit how much they can cash in on tokens.

The server transfer scam let players join the winning side on other servers while excaberating population issues meaning customers couldn't even play the game properly.
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moobot83: do you even play wow mythic BOE items from raids sell on the auction house, by what you just said there you obviously havnt played wow in awhile, so im done talking to someone who knows jack shit about the game
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amok: "mythic" is a instance difficulty, not quality of gear.... you need a certain ilevel to do mythics, that's it. and I have 7 level 120's now, DPS, tank and healer. I have run raids and mythics. I have played since 2005 (on and off...) and I have never seen anyone refer to gear as "mythic", rather by colour (i.e. "blues", "purples" and "oranges") and then ilevel. so for example 375 purple gloves.
if check the item level of gear or an epic quality item on the AH it can say mythic or heroic in green letters on the item tooltip,
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amok: "mythic" is a instance difficulty, not quality of gear.... you need a certain ilevel to do mythics, that's it. and I have 7 level 120's now, DPS, tank and healer. I have run raids and mythics. I have played since 2005 (on and off...) and I have never seen anyone refer to gear as "mythic", rather by colour (i.e. "blues", "purples" and "oranges") and then ilevel. so for example 375 purple gloves.
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moobot83: if check the item level of gear or an epic quality item on the AH it can say mythic or heroic in green letters on the item tooltip,
indeed it can, or warforged. but those gear are almost always BoP, not BoE, and cant be sold. they are upgraded rewards. still, no one I know would refer to them as "mythic gear"